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Post by mattsedgley on May 25, 2009 9:06:12 GMT
Now i know people joke about wear issues on blue cars, and that they're made of cheese etc etc.... but I'm getting fairly tired of screws made of cheese, it doesn't seem to be a particular manufacturer they all just seem to be pretty cheesy! Yesterday another one rounded off which will have to be drilled out, and that's not the first one this month, I must say the original cyclone ones in many places have stayed in and are great , however in a few places they've been replaced by "grey" screws from model shops...
Has anyone found any really good screws that don't go all soft and roundy at the first sign of a tool? (cue pete telling how great xray screws are) - but really, what do you use, is it any good, where's it from???
Matt
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Post by Jazzler on May 25, 2009 9:26:25 GMT
Hey Matt,
I don't know if you remember, but when I first got my cyclone I had a problem with lots of the screws had rounded off heads. So my solution was to buy a full set of new screws. I drilled out the ones that had rounded off, then replaced with a full set of new HPI screws (Black).. But before I put them in, any screw that goes into aluminium I coated with a tiny amount of grease.
It's a little advice I got from Les, and I haven't had any problems since... Oh and I do tighten my screws pretty tight too.
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Post by oldtimeracer on May 25, 2009 9:33:49 GMT
The main problem is having a good allen key that actually fits the screws properly. A bit of grease helps a lot if screws go into metal.
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Post by Simon Crabb on May 25, 2009 9:53:44 GMT
A well fitting tool is essential.
Yesterday I was gutted when I lost my 2mm HUDY hex driver, as it fits WAY better than the other random brand 2mm hex driver.
Many times I've got a screw out with the HUDY tool that the other driver has rounded off!
I was over the moon when I found the HUDY driver on the grass when clearing up.
[ This message was sponsored by Dipl. Eng. Juraj HUDY. ]
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Post by yellowshark on May 25, 2009 10:16:17 GMT
Drum roll...... Well of course firstly you need the best driver, as Simon says Hudy 2mm is the one your need. Not sure on this but there seems to be close relationship with XRAY ( ;D), if not a financial one. And of course XRAY screws are as good as they come so the combination is awesome. Todate I have had to "engineer" 3 screws out of the chassis and none elsewhere and one of those 3 was obviously going to happen so down to my laziness/sloppiness. I am happy with one a season and of course for two of those seasons I have been running 2 drivers so that is 3/5ths of a screw each season  HTH Matt  |
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Post by keitheroonie on May 25, 2009 10:26:55 GMT
Matt I sympathise with your dilemma, I drill out screws on a regular basis, even Pete's 3 failures is 3 too many in my book. I'm actually trying to source some 4mm Hardened countersunk screws through work, I'll let you know what I find.
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Post by Simon Crabb on May 25, 2009 10:31:20 GMT
Oh, and the other thing is, don't tighten them up too much!
Love them in, nip them up. I've seen you (and Keith) lean on the driver and torque them right up...
I always worry a bit when you get a driver near my car...
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Post by mattsedgley on May 25, 2009 10:41:39 GMT
Love them in! - honestly!
In all honesty i've found the ansmann driver that use great for doing the screws, the business end hasn't changed one bit!
who's a good supplier of Hudy tools? what do people think about EDS tools?
Maybe I'll envest in another driver..
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Post by mattsedgley on May 25, 2009 10:51:45 GMT
I always worry a bit when you get a driver near my car... Worry a bit about what? that'll i'll damage the cheese!?   |
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Post by Reuben on May 25, 2009 11:39:55 GMT
I havent had any troubles with my screws ?? only one I ever needed to drill out was one of the bottom ones, and that one came with the car 2nd hand like that.
Ive never rounded one off. But thats a combination between not tightening them up to much (only a nip) and making sure the driver is pushed in as far as possible before turning.
Oh btw im using one of those £10 4in1 fastrax drivers and its worked time and time again and hasn;t shown any sign of wear.
Plus the screws in the car are the stainless steel ones - i think.
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Post by yellowshark on May 25, 2009 12:42:35 GMT
Love them in! - honestly! In all honesty i've found the ansmann driver that use great for doing the screws, the business end hasn't changed one bit! who's a good supplier of Hudy tools? what do people think about EDS tools? Maybe I'll envest in another driver.. Demon and Microtech Racing if you need an urgent online response but Terry can get them from Mirage - within days I suspect. Note that Hudy will be going over to RC Disco so I suppose a possibility of a glitch is there but I understand that Jason already owns or "owns" the XRAY and HUDY stock and distribution |
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Post by yellowshark on May 25, 2009 12:46:02 GMT
I havent had any troubles with my screws ?? only one I ever needed to drill out was one of the bottom ones, and that one came with the car 2nd hand like that. Never had to drill out an XRAY HUDY inserted screw. Just a small incision to facilitate the use of a flat head driver. Stripping has not been a problem but Craig shortcutting over the kerbs has |
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Post by Reuben on May 25, 2009 14:26:19 GMT
I havent had any troubles with my screws ?? only one I ever needed to drill out was one of the bottom ones, and that one came with the car 2nd hand like that. Never had to drill out an XRAY HUDY inserted screw. Just a small incision to facilitate the use of a flat head driver. Stripping has not been a problem but Craig shortcutting over the kerbs has Well then i should amend my post: I have never had to drill out a screw, Just a small incision to facilitate the use of a flat head driver.  |
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Post by yellowshark on May 25, 2009 15:39:16 GMT
Never had to drill out an XRAY HUDY inserted screw. Just a small incision to facilitate the use of a flat head driver. Stripping has not been a problem but Craig shortcutting over the kerbs has Well then i should amend my post: I have never had to drill out a screw, Just a small incision to facilitate the use of a flat head driver. "" only one I ever needed to drill out was one of the bottom ones, "" "" Well then i should amend my post: I have never had to drill out a screw,"" Well thats clear then |
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Post by Reuben on May 25, 2009 15:41:25 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by lesbaldry on May 25, 2009 20:38:36 GMT
Titanium screws help in the places that are frequently stripped,but can be expensive...just renew any screw that shows any sign of the drive face starting to round off..dont take a chance of putting a dodgy screw back...throw away worn tool tips and dont hold screws in your mouth/lips that need to go into alloy..grease lubes,saliva corrodes |
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