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Post by yellowshark on May 11, 2011 16:02:12 GMT
I see the provisonal heat listing is up. Best of luck guys! ;D
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Post by Reuben on May 11, 2011 17:35:24 GMT
hoping to improve on my initial seed - 3rd from bottom  good luck to all others attending, see you there |
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Post by ginge on May 12, 2011 7:04:10 GMT
good luck to all that are going the the nationals ;D
Ginge
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Post by lesbaldry on May 12, 2011 14:21:13 GMT
I see the provisonal heat listing is up. Best of luck guys! ;D Thanks Pete  |
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Post by yellowshark on May 14, 2011 10:41:02 GMT
After 2 rounds of practice the boys are doing OK. Based on raw speed only, ie fastest lap time
Reuben is well up in the C final for Mod, only .2 secs away from the B final
Les is well up in the Pro stock E final, nout only .08 sec away from D final and only .24 away from the C final so all to play for there!
Liam is at the top of the G final and only.32 away from the E final.
Exciting or what ;D
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Post by yellowshark on May 14, 2011 10:45:17 GMT
Oops left out Mr Newton. I think Ian is struggling, only completed very few laps in practice session 2 and 3 suggesting car problems.
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Post by yellowshark on May 14, 2011 12:15:53 GMT
Enf of final practive session...
Reuben improved to .17 off the B final raw pace
Les time did not improve but still only .14 off D final raw pace
Liam now only .14 off E final raw pace, good improvement there!
As earlier, Ian seems to have had problems in the practice session - then again that is what it is for!
So all in good form and on to to where it actually counts, qualifying
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Post by yellowshark on May 14, 2011 16:44:53 GMT
Great 1st qualies. Reuben well into Mod B final, Les a stunning 2nd in C final and Liam and Ian both doing well and up into E final.
No improvements in qualie 2 though. Reuben and Les still in B Mod and C prostock but Liam and Ian dropped down to G. Still, 3 more qualies to go though. Keep it up guys ;D
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Post by yellowshark on May 14, 2011 16:59:02 GMT
oops I got over excited, Les is running in D at the moment not C - still good though!
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Post by Reuben on May 14, 2011 19:03:05 GMT
live.wlrc.co.uk Day 1 over, mixed bag for all of us. Les's car doing very well in a tight pro-stock field. Day 2 still to go, a Lot can change between now and then
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Post by jamietraylor on May 14, 2011 19:28:30 GMT
Blimey Reuben your on fire! Keep it up!
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Post by yellowshark on May 15, 2011 9:01:16 GMT
Good start by Les in Q4, beating his best time (Q1) by 3 secs and a consistent looking run. It is though pretty tightly packed where Les is in Pro Stock and other improvements coming through too. So as they are running round by round qualifying it is pretty impossible to interpret what the real position is.
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Post by yellowshark on May 15, 2011 16:55:27 GMT
Ian had a strong final 5 laps in F3 getting a 3rd and almost 2nd so a good ending even if there was some struggling (?) through the meeting. Liam wins the G final with a 1st and a 2nd. A Nats final winner! Great result Liam well done. ;D Les has his best run in the 3rd final which is always nice to finish on a high. Posted the 6th fastest lap time in F2 but seemed to have a few offs, so probably a bit disappointed knowing Les  . At the end of the day Qualifying for the E final is extremely respectable. Reuben was well on the pace in Mod C final 1 but seems to have had a few offs. I am guessing he suffered a breakdown in F2. But finishes with a strong and very consistent 5th in F3 so I am suspecting that is one that got away Reuben! Good overall result though. Well done guys! |
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Post by Dave Chamberlain on May 15, 2011 17:19:04 GMT
Well done to all the SHMCC drivers!!
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Post by Reuben on May 15, 2011 17:45:02 GMT
On the way back now. Mr pettit is driving. For me it was a good gain of experience but a round to write off. 1st final I just got punted left right and centre. Not a bad drive but every incident seemed to happen in front of me. 2nd final I got punted 2nd corner instead and then 4 mins in my rear belt snapped so I pulled it off (not knowing what it was at the time). 3rd final was good, got smashed off the track 1st corner - again. But fort back up to 5th from 10th. So the moral is not to qualify mid pack in a final, because it doesn't matter how you take the first corner, your always going to get te-boned, unless you t-bone the guy infront
My xray was planted and a joy to drive all weekend, just more track practice needed to find those few tenths.
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Post by ginge on May 15, 2011 17:51:28 GMT
well done to you all Ginge |
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Post by yellowshark on May 15, 2011 19:03:34 GMT
My xray was planted and a joy to drive all weekend. Some things just never change Reuben ;D BTW it's XRAY |
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Post by ginge on May 15, 2011 19:06:38 GMT
Yes Reuben remember its a XGAY!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Ginge |
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Post by lesbaldry on May 16, 2011 7:22:08 GMT
West London proved to be a bit of an eye opener,Many fast guys struggled with this very technical track with its high grip,Many were way way down the rankings,even a few went home early. Even though Reuben and I ended up "middle ranked " in our classes(100 drivers in pro stock,40 in mod)... to put things into contex a half a second or less a lap faster if driven with consistency would have moved a Pro stock driver up at least 2 finals and a mod driver from the bottom of one to the middle of the next,and that's seriously tight racing! Also round by round quallies don't exactly show your true pace as a poor couple of runs due to a component failure(Reuben) or pilot error (me  )rapidly drop you down the final listings. All n all I think the Nat newbys Reuben and Liam thoroughly enjoyed the experience....even though poor Liam suffered with "Nat nerves".......Having a bloody good laugh on the day with your pit buddies keeps me relaxed,this helps a lot with the nerves Liam I had been to West London previously to get a good base set up,so I was reasonably confident.After the second round I was well happy to be in side the top 30 fastest,occasionally having the lap times to put me even higher...But and a big BUT  I'm relatively new to the TC6,the grip increased during the weekend to levels that I had never experienced on West Londons new tarmac (serious grip roll conditions) so to be honest it confused me somewhat (and many others too) to a point where I lost my way in what to change to improve my pace ......Still you live and learn and as Reuben and I chatted about "this is one Nat round to drop"....So roll on the Cotswolds,a track that's loads easier to drive and new rubber is no advantage so the 3 set tyre rule management skills have next to no influence on your pace or final positions.Old rubber is just as quick!! |
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Post by ginge on May 16, 2011 9:49:09 GMT
I think you all did really well lads just one more experience in your locker!! Ginge |
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Post by darrenoakley on May 16, 2011 10:18:26 GMT
Yeah agree well done all the guys for supporting the club at national level. And some good results to boot I think.
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Post by Neil on May 16, 2011 11:57:56 GMT
really pleased with liams first nationals,few broken parts to boot but thats part of west london racing.thought rueben did really well,things could of gone better for ian and les if they didnot keep getting takern out. i think all enjoyed the weekend i certainly did.i would also like to say a massive thanks to rueben for helping out on the parts front.
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Post by yellowshark on May 16, 2011 15:32:15 GMT
Yup Les, I am not a not sure round by round is a good thing. I am thinking back to the Aldershot Nats last year when you and Craig were drawn in the bottom heat but 1.
You had 5 or 6 novice drivers in that heat and you were both always loosing time getting baulked by traffic on nearly every lap after the first 2 or 3.; perhaps Craig moreso as he was very timid into and around the sweeper until Q4 & Q5 when I told him he just had to risk overtakes. I calculated that Craig was loosing a good second a lap. He had 2 cars spin in front of him on entry to the sweeper nearly taking him out and got taken out in Q1 or Q2 on entry to the sweeper so he would not overtake if he was within 5-10 metres of turn in which lost him bags of time round the sweeper let alone anywhere else. It was only Q4 or Q5 where there were a number of non starts and a couple of early exits leaving a reasonably empty track where he bagged a decent time. If that had been round by round it would have been a disaster.
Craig was driving well, the car was handling nicely, it was all about getting drawn with a group of slow drivers who were wandering all over the straight and elsewhere. That's not a complaint about the drivers just that I don't think RbR works well in the lower heats for a good driver just doing one or two races where you will be seeded in the bottom heat or two.
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Post by Reuben on May 16, 2011 15:53:08 GMT
here is some entertainment and an amusing final: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkBb-gyMiYgAlso its never been "much" of an issue with dirty tyres in stock classes, but you will clearly see that after running wide onto the dirty parts my tyres got dirty and it was v.hard to put the power down. Ive never had that before, its almost like scale racing , and as annoying as it is, trying to manage the tyres over 5 minutes was frustratingly fun and very rewarding when you get it right. |
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Post by liampettit on May 17, 2011 16:45:54 GMT
what a good day that was, thanks to all the people that helped me on both days, also thanks to reuben for letting me borrow the parts i needed, plus big thank you to my dad for taking me up and helping put my car back together
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Post by lesbaldry on May 18, 2011 7:55:09 GMT
Yup Les, I am not a not sure round by round is a good thing. I am thinking back to the Aldershot Nats last year when you and Craig were drawn in the bottom heat but 1. You had 5 or 6 novice drivers in that heat and you were both always loosing time getting baulked by traffic on nearly every lap after the first 2 or 3.; perhaps Craig moreso as he was very timid into and around the sweeper until Q4 & Q5 when I told him he just had to risk overtakes. I calculated that Craig was loosing a good second a lap. He had 2 cars spin in front of him on entry to the sweeper nearly taking him out and got taken out in Q1 or Q2 on entry to the sweeper so he would not overtake if he was within 5-10 metres of turn in which lost him bags of time round the sweeper let alone anywhere else. It was only Q4 or Q5 where there were a number of non starts and a couple of early exits leaving a reasonably empty track where he bagged a decent time. If that had been round by round it would have been a disaster. Craig was driving well, the car was handling nicely, it was all about getting drawn with a group of slow drivers who were wandering all over the straight and elsewhere. That's not a complaint about the drivers just that I don't think RbR works well in the lower heats for a good driver just doing one or two races where you will be seeded in the bottom heat or two. Yep im with you on those thoughts Pete,but RbR is the same for all,It certainly makes you try and drive with consistency,balls out runs just don't work! especially as the grip was changing rapidly round by round, this made the car drive different round by round. First day for me was good as was my first run on the second day but by the next round the high grip came on like a switch and many were grip rolling "my self included" on parts of the track that were previously ok... trouble was I had sorted the grip roll probs but it made my car slower and difficult to drive on the infield so by the time I remembered  to drive a bit slower on the sticky bits and re set the car to how it was, the day was over,I feel this was catching many drivers out....we live and learn  I don't think we will see this scenario on other tracks,for one West London is a very difficult track to drive let alone overtake on., two by the time we run there perhaps next year the tracks new tarmac will have "weathered in" to a more predicable grip level/s On another note,quite a few drivers were removing their Tekins in favor of the smoother Speed Passion/Hobby wings,they found the Tekin a little too "switchy"on this technical track Too sum West London up.Only the winners came away totally happy along with the model shops as Ive never seen so many component failures and badly broken cars! As for me,I should have taken note that the cars started to grip roll violently towards the end of the day at the cooler one day BTCC meet and driven more cautiously .......Roll on the Cotswolds where "balls out" is fun |
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Post by ginge on May 18, 2011 10:47:51 GMT
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Post by martinchallis on May 18, 2011 17:35:50 GMT
slotting out of scrutineering... thank god it didnt have a post it on it |
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)rapidly drop you down the final listings.
I'm relatively new to the TC6,the grip increased during the weekend to levels that I had never experienced on West Londons new tarmac (serious grip roll conditions) so to be honest it confused me somewhat (and many others too) to a point where I lost my way in what to change to improve my pace 
to drive a bit slower on the sticky bits and re set the car to how it was, the day was over,I feel this was catching many drivers out....we live and learn 
