Shock Oil Confusion

[Simon Crabb]

Did you know that 400cst oil is not 40wt?

And, is Edit 400cst oil the same as Much More's 400?

I've suddenly got in all a confusion about shock oil, I've been using Edit 350cst all year, thinking it was 35wt, but it seems I've probably been underdamped? It's closer to 27wt or 30wt, depending on if the wt in question is Associated or Losi!

More info at www.twf8.ws/php/tip/shock.html

Oh, and then, every batch is different...

The sooner we all just talk in cst the better I think, that's the only reliable measurement?

Help!

[keitheroonie]

there's a nice conversion table on the net somewhere for comparing the different manufacturers oils. I'll see if I can find it and post the link when I get home. They do differ a bit

[TryHard]

yup, I knew that... hence why my pit box only has Much More oil.

The main reason is, there is no standard for the manufactures to work too effectively... so ones 500wt would be quite different to antohers 50wt... A good example is Losi, whose oils are quite thick compared to other makes.

Batch-to-Batch variation is difficult to avoid (we are talking mixing chemicals after all), however best tip is to avoid filling up shocks from different bottles of oil... if your running equal oils all round, use the same bottle... and at least it will be consistant from shock to shock.

Personally, I always liked the AE oil, was very consistent. However, it's bloody hard to find, and most of the top guys use MuchMore now (plus, it's cheap ), so it's what I've converted over too.

[Darren]

Funny... i just found out yesterday about shock oils, was looking on the xray site and theres a table listed all different grades and like you simon i thought 350 equalled 35 etc...etc. I use schumacer shock oil...

[yellowshark]

Yup I knew that... hence why my pit box only has XRAY oil. 350cst pretty much = 30wt in the XRAY world

[mattsedgley]

I thought the same, I used edit oils

[yellowshark]

Aug 13, 2009 17:44:52 GMT Darren said:

Funny... i just found out yesterday about shock oils, was looking on the xray site and theres a table listed all different grades .

nothing like XRAY support for its customers

[gwesty]

yep great support , shame the team drivers use either much more or schumacher tho

[Reuben]

ive got Edit 400Cst in :S. I thought it was all the same! nice informative post

[Darren]

Aug 13, 2009 18:01:24 GMT gwesty said:

yep great support , shame the team drivers use either much more or schumacher tho

Maybe cause Xray shock oil is £9.49 a bottle and schumacher is £2.84 a bottle and Much more is £7.15 a bottle or maybe cause Xray oil is rubbish, i'll never find out when its £10 per bottle. How is it that Xray's oil is so much more expensive...? even HPI and Associated is around £3 a bottle

[mattsedgley]

if you wait for pete to answer, he'll say it's cause it's superior.. i like you will never know... 9.49.. honestly! thats enough for one and a half belts on my new car.. or three wishbones!

[Simon Crabb]

Much More oil comes in two sizes, £3ish and £7ish.

[Reuben]

But what do we do so close to the weekend? Keep that 400Cst oil, or change to what you think you had a put some 40w in? or use some 35w because it will be close to 400Cst (maybe just a little harder)!

d**n you Simon, why didnt you put this up after the weekend. Then I could have been naive to all of this!

[Simon Crabb]

Mwuahahaha!

As Les says, depends on the rest of the shock build!

Cat. Pigeons.

[oldtimeracer]

Changed all my oils to the EDIT stuff that Terry sells some time ago. I noticed at the time that it seemed a lot thinner than the Losi oil I was using and now have got used to it. If you go by 300 = 30WT etc as we used to then I am running much heavier now than before. 500 rear and 450 front. Seems to be about the same now as before. Just different numbers.

If the car is working then why change it.

Just Simon trying to confuse everyone ;D

[yellowshark]

Bwah can I bothered with all this misinformed comment? Alright, just to please Sedgey mind you.

1. Th team drivers spend so much money travelling around they cannot afford a premium product
2. Yes it says so on the can and it is against the trade descriptions act to call something premium unless it is.
3. How do convince an Xray driver to put oil in his £15 (plus spring)shock absorber that costs 2 quid. Precisely.
4. If you put too much milk in your eggs the 500cst XRAY oil is great for rescuing the consistency of the scrambled eggs. Would you trust a £2 oil to do that, of course not
5. Actually the huge bottle is the paltry sum of £8.16
6. And although I have only done it once, with its pleasant smell it is great alternative if you leave your shaving gel at home.

Next one please.

[yellowshark]

Aug 13, 2009 21:55:51 GMT @mattsedgley said:

if you wait for pete to answer, he'll say it's cause it's superior.. i like you will never know... 9.49.. honestly! thats enough for one and a half belts on my new car.. or three wishbones!

Cheap belts as well then Matt ;D

[Darren]

Aug 14, 2009 18:09:00 GMT yellowshark said:

6. And although I have only done it once, with its pleasant smell it is great alternative if you leave your shaving gel at home.

Classic Answer makes me laugh everytime i read it....... ;D

P.S where do you get it from At £8

[yellowshark]

Demon list at that price but are out of stock on the 350cst. Possibly due to the distribution channel not being fully stocked yet? Of course you could use some Paco Rabanne in the interim but that would be expensive ;D

[Simon Crabb]

Xray oil is SO expensive, £8 for 35ml!

The Much More big bottle is 150ml for £8! Much More standard bottle is £3 for 60ml.

[TryHard]

Simon, you forget... it's OPTIMISED, which means they can charge through the nose...