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Post by ukcmf on Dec 27, 2008 17:07:58 GMT
Just wondered if there'll be a Reality Racing Cup in 2009 or something similar? If so any idea of dates and classes yet?
Col
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Post by keitheroonie on Dec 27, 2008 18:11:06 GMT
Nothing has been set in stone yet but I believe Reality Racing will be supporting a summer championship.
Details will be released as soon as they've been decided.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 30, 2008 6:26:31 GMT
With SLCC & STCC being open for bookings within the next few weeks, do we have a target date for publishing dates?
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Post by mattsedgley on Dec 30, 2008 11:31:27 GMT
The committee are meeting on Tuesday the 6th of January, I'm sure more information will be available after this time. Understandably many racers are looking towards the summer and what/when to race, rest assured wherever possible we'll attempt to ensure a clash free summer so that all racers can participate in the majority of events. (All we've got to worry about then is the weather!!) Please be aware, I'm speaking as a member of the committee, any final decisions or changes will come from Keith the Chairman in due course no doubt. Matt  (Counting down the days till it's warm and sunny on a Sunday) |
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Post by keitheroonie on Dec 30, 2008 23:18:54 GMT
Reality Racing Cup will be held in 2009, it's confirmed ;D
The series will consist of 6 round with 4 to count, rounds will be held monthly from March to August.
Classes will most likely be as per SHMCC club classes, this is still to be confirmed.
Dates will be confirmed and announced next week.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 31, 2008 12:05:02 GMT
Cheers Keith |
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Post by ukcmf on Jan 2, 2009 7:04:48 GMT
Can it be clarified for 2009 whether the Reality Racing Cup will be presented to the overall winner of the series or whether this no longer applies and winners will be in F1, F2, F3 etc (or whatever the groupings will be) only.
Col, Del & Dan
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 2, 2009 10:32:34 GMT
Hi Col, I will release all details next week when it's been decided.
Keith
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 7, 2009 22:56:50 GMT
As promised to all you keen Reality Racers, here's the info  You'll notice we've added an extra budget class (credit crunch and all that). Terry will help you out with all the kit you need to enter it. ( www.realityracing.info/) Race Dates: March 8th April 5th May 10th June 7th July 19th September 6th Stock & Pro-Stock 1/10th Electric Touring Car Classes • Both Stock & Pro-Stock classes will be run to SHMCC club rules. • All other regulations to BRCA guidelines. • F1 Class – Aged 15 and over on Sunday 18th March (RRC round 1). • F2 Class – Aged 14 and under on Sunday 18th March (RRC round 1). ARE-1 1/10th Budget Electric Touring Car Class • Ansmann ARE-1 Touring Cars only may enter. • Ansmann Clash 21T sealed can kit motors to be used. • Ansmann ART-SL pre glued kit tires to be used. • Only upgrade allowed is Ansmann threaded shocks with any spring combination. • Any Electronic Speed Controller with a £39.99 price limit. • Any radio gear & servo may be used • Batteries 2 cell 7.4V 5000mah (max) LiPo or 6 cell 7.2V Nimh/Nicd • LiPo must be hard cased and be run with a cut off, on ESC or as separate device. • Minimum weight limit |
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Post by ukcmf on Jan 8, 2009 6:53:38 GMT
Good Oh.
Can I ask how many rounds will count and how will trophies be awarded.
Col
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 7:20:15 GMT
I assume that, irrespective of age, if you have finished in the top 3 in F2 you are not eligble for F2, yes? Simlarly for F3
What happened to F3?
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 7:52:19 GMT
It's best 4 round to count as before, trophies will be awarded at each meeting. championship trophies will be handed out after the championship finishes and engraving has been done.
The Reality cup will be engraved and kept in Reality Racing as usual.
The F system of last year has been dropped for this year as it wasn't really neccessary, it's now just an age thing F2 is 14 years and under F1 is everyone else
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Post by ukcmf on Jan 8, 2009 12:12:42 GMT
It's best 4 round to count as before, trophies will be awarded at each meeting. championship trophies will be handed out after the championship finishes and engraving has been done. The Reality cup will be engraved and kept in Reality Racing as usual. The F system of last year has been dropped for this year as it wasn't really neccessary, it's now just an age thing F2 is 14 years and under F1 is everyone else So will that be trophies for all who do the minimum number of rounds at the end of the championship or just the top three. And will the RR Cup actually be presented to the winning driver....I only ask as Dan was very disappointed not to have it presented to him last year as were we. Col |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 12:20:45 GMT
It's best 4 round to count as before, trophies will be awarded at each meeting. championship trophies will be handed out after the championship finishes and engraving has been done. The Reality cup will be engraved and kept in Reality Racing as usual. The F system of last year has been dropped for this year as it wasn't really neccessary, it's now just an age thing F2 is 14 years and under F1 is everyone else So will that be trophies for all who do the minimum number of rounds at the end of the championship or just the top three. And will the RR Cup actually be presented to the winning driver....I only ask as Dan was very disappointed not to have it presented to him last year as were we. Col I take it Keith that the "winning" driver can come from F2 given the new format for F1/F2 |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 12:23:46 GMT
The F system of last year has been dropped for this year as it wasn't really neccessary, it's now just an age thing F2 is 14 years and under F1 is everyone else Fair enough Keith but I would have thought such a change, ie "previous" not just"last" years should have had a wider discussion - who says it isnt necessary?  . I thought the whole point was to allow people an opportunity to win trophies by promoting winning drivers to the next class up. |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 12:26:12 GMT
Given the new structure I would like to formally request that the titles are changed to Senior and Junior - and I still assume a Junior can win the Reality Cup
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 16:53:27 GMT
The F system of last year has been dropped for this year as it wasn't really neccessary, it's now just an age thing F2 is 14 years and under F1 is everyone else Fair enough Keith but I would have thought such a change, ie "previous" not just"last" years should have had a wider discussion - who says it isnt necessary? . I thought the whole point was to allow people an opportunity to win trophies by promoting winning drivers to the next class up. We discussed it between the committee and Terry Crew (sponsor) on Tuesday evening and it was decided that technically nothing has really changed. Anyone who completes enough rounds (ex. 4 of 6) in any championship run by the club will receive a trophy, this applies to normal club championships as well as Reality Cup etc. As it's mainly only the junior members who will look at their position in their F class rather than the main points table, we decided it wasn't neccessary to include the F class system this year. The change will not affect Ross or Dan as Ross would have been F2 which he still will be, and Dan would have been F1 which he will be also. Yes the overall winner can come from F2  There's also no reason why Craig couldn't race as F1 if he so wishes, just let me know when you book in for the first round and I'll sort it out Given the new structure I would like to formally request that the titles are changed to Senior and Junior - and I still assume a Junior can win the Reality Cup Unfortunately the timing software doesn't have that capability, it's only got options for F1, F2 etc. so when the results and times are posted they'll still say F1 and F2 |
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 17:47:55 GMT
So will that be trophies for all who do the minimum number of rounds at the end of the championship or just the top three. And will the RR Cup actually be presented to the winning driver....I only ask as Dan was very disappointed not to have it presented to him last year as were we. Col Hi Col, I wasn't invloved in last year RRC (except racing) but I believe an oversight meant the trophy was still at the engravers for the last round  Would you, Derek and obviously Dan be happy for a presentation to take place at the first round of this years RRC? |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 18:22:04 GMT
Fair enough Keith but I would have thought such a change, ie "previous" not just"last" years should have had a wider discussion - who says it isnt necessary? . I thought the whole point was to allow people an opportunity to win trophies by promoting winning drivers to the next class up. We discussed it between the committee and Terry Crew (sponsor) on Tuesday evening and it was decided that technically nothing has really changed. Anyone who completes enough rounds (ex. 4 of 6) in any championship run by the club will receive a trophy, this applies to normal club championships as well as Reality Cup etc. As it's mainly only the junior members who will look at their position in their F class rather than the main points table, we decided it wasn't neccessary to include the F class system this year. The change will not affect Ross or Dan as Ross would have been F2 which he still will be, and Dan would have been F1 which he will be also. Yes the overall winner can come from F2 There's also no reason why Craig couldn't race as F1 if he so wishes, just let me know when you book in for the first round and I'll sort it out Given the new structure I would like to formally request that the titles are changed to Senior and Junior - and I still assume a Junior can win the Reality Cup Unfortunately the timing software doesn't have that capability, it's only got options for F1, F2 etc. so when the results and times are posted they'll still say F1 and F2 Thanks Keith. Can the web site results be changed to Senior Junior then? I ask becuase I get the impression from Racechat that in most other clubs the F1/F2 designation indicates capability not age. I probably have a different perspective to the rest of the club, its seems I normally do ;D. If I were to start racing I would like to have the challenge of winning a proper trophy; one for achievement not just turning up - don't get me wrong, I think it is great that people that support the club and turn up for meetings get recognition. But it is not the same in my book as getting a podium and finishing in the top 3 of the series. As an old codger that could have happened but now with the change never will - which I think is a shame for any new old codgers thinking of taking up the sport. You will relaise I hope that I am looking at this from an overall view not a Team Campbell view. The new structure benefits Ross and Craig but I would have voted against it. Had my say |
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Post by ukcmf on Jan 8, 2009 18:34:06 GMT
There's also no reason why Craig couldn't race as F1 if he so wishes, just let me know when you book in for the first round and I'll sort it out [ Just to clarify things - and for the record Im happy that Craig will be given the opportunity to race F1 as he's earnt it but if you're allowing one person in under the current age limits set hadnt you better officially change the age groups for each class to make it fair for all so that anyone else just under the current age limit will be allowed to take part not just those who shout the loudest (sorry Pete no offence meant....would just like the rules clarified so its fair to all) Col |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 18:42:52 GMT
Have I got the wrong end of the stick here ;D I have no current desire to have Craig "break the rules" cos I assume he will still be racing with F1 guys. We are not having separate physical heats and finals for F1 and F2 are we? (no offence taken Col ;D) I will ask for the third time ;D. I assume a Junior can win the Reality cup if he has more points than the old codgers? Oh and please note Craig knows nothing about this - until I get home. Having won F2 he might take the right bottom at being classified F2 of course (hence my request to name it properly - wot goes on the board is immaterial if it is right on the web site tables)- I am assuming he will not. |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 18:48:27 GMT
There's also no reason why Craig couldn't race as F1 if he so wishes, just let me know when you book in for the first round and I'll sort it out [ Just to clarify things - and for the record Im happy that Craig will be given the opportunity to race F1 as he's earnt it but if you're allowing one person in under the current age limits set hadnt you better officially change the age groups for each class to make it fair for all so that anyone else just under the current age limit will be allowed to take part not just those who shout the loudest (sorry Pete no offence meant....would just like the rules clarified so its fair to all) Col Ere hold on Col I haven't shouted to have Craig in F1, have I I have just asked that they be named properly, ie Seniors and Juniors and bemoaned the fact that I think this reclassification is wrong and for such a significant change was not put to the membership for voting. |
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 19:12:28 GMT
Thanks Keith. Can the web site results be changed to Senior Junior then? I ask becuase I get the impression from Racechat that in most other clubs the F1/F2 designation indicates capability not age. Unfortunately not for the times, the timing software generates the web pages itself and brands them F1/F2. The championship table could show Senior/Junior though. I probably have a different perspective to the rest of the club, its seems I normally do ;D. If I were to start racing I would like to have the challenge of winning a proper trophy; one for achievement not just turning up - don't get me wrong, I think it is great that people that support the club and turn up for meetings get recognition. But it is not the same in my book as getting a podium and finishing in the top 3 of the series. As an old codger that could have happened but now with the change never will - which I think is a shame for any new old codgers thinking of taking up the sport. Pete I'm not with you on this one I'm affraid, last year I came 3rd in F2 but 6th overall, I received a trophy for 3rd in F2! personally I would have been prouder to have received a trophy for 6th overall, I would rather see Saints finish 6th in the premiership than 3rd in the championship I think this reclassification is wrong and for such a significant change was not put to the membership for voting. The RRC is a championship run by SHMCC under rules set by Reality Racing, not SHMCC. I will ask for the third time ;D. I assume a Junior can win the Reality cup if he has more points than the old codgers? I will answer for the 2nd time  |
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 19:52:39 GMT
Just to clarify things - and for the record Im happy that Craig will be given the opportunity to race F1 as he's earnt it but if you're allowing one person in under the current age limits set hadnt you better officially change the age groups for each class to make it fair for all so that anyone else just under the current age limit will be allowed to take part not just those who shout the loudest (sorry Pete no offence meant....would just like the rules clarified so its fair to all) Col Pete never shouted to have Craig changed to F1, that was something I offered to Pete. Craig earnt the right to drive in F1 in 2008 but that system is no longer being used, this means he hasn't actually earnt the right to drive in F1 this year, as F1 is seniors not an ability system. As you're aware we always try to make everyone as happy as we can, that's not always easy though. The offer was made to Pete because Craig is within 2 months of the necessary age and it would give him no advantage. If you can think of someone in a similar situation then please ask them to PM me or post on here so I can discuss it with them. Just to clarify: No rules will be changed or overlooked which may benifit any driver |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 20:17:47 GMT
Just to be absolutely sure, I have no issue on this. I am happy to follow the rules, just reserve the right to raise questions ;D
Putting "Juniors" on the web site league table (not timings) and on the trophies would be appropriate.
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 20:21:08 GMT
I will answer for the 2nd time Sorry Keith must have missed it in the melee |
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 20:28:27 GMT
Just to be absolutely sure, I have no issue on this. I am happy to follow the rules, just reserve the right to raise questions ;D Putting "Juniors" on the web site league table (not timings) and on the trophies would be appropriate. Questions are good, I'm sure you're not the only one who needed those answers. I'll see what I can do, I agree the trophies should say Juniors not F2. I don't fancy mine saying seniors though, I think we'll leave that bit out ;D ;D |
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Post by yellowshark on Jan 8, 2009 20:29:44 GMT
Oh jeez here I go again - was there a particular reason to clash the RRC dates with the STCC meets at West London and Brooklands?
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Post by keitheroonie on Jan 8, 2009 20:40:50 GMT
Oh jeez here I go again - was there a particular reason to clash the RRC dates with the STCC meets at West London and Brooklands? Ha Ha Ha ;D ;D ;D It's going to be a late night Read your PM's |
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Post by ukcmf on Jan 9, 2009 7:09:02 GMT
Lol...I was going to say 'Sorry I misunderstood' but now Im not sure i did....Its been a long week.
Just to clarify that I do understand - sorry Keith ;D There will be a Seniors and Juniors class as split by the age group as previously specified but for racing (as always happens at SHMCC) the two groups will race mixed together as chosen in Heats by the race director in the first round and after that the computer sets the heats based on the drivers results (ability) from the previous rounds...is that correct?
And another question...Terry was very keen last year on having 10 drivers in each final (providing there is a minimum of 10 taking part) as per the BRCA - will that be the case for 2009?
Col (I think I need a lie down)
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