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Post by yellowshark on Oct 10, 2009 9:45:21 GMT
We thank you for the compliment Mark Do not forget we pioneered the 17.5 class here; if 1350 comes you can bet your life we will be ready for it
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Post by yellowshark on Oct 10, 2009 9:51:40 GMT
I do enjoy reading this forum, especially when you lot get all techy, although sometimes the techy gets a bit to much ;D You only have to read what they say! we have to listen to them at race meetings too!!! Matt ;D ;D
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Post by mattsedgley on Oct 10, 2009 9:55:19 GMT
racing Sunday pete? I'm feeling 1350 ish with a 17.5 for a practice
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Post by TryHard on Oct 10, 2009 23:24:43 GMT
I do enjoy reading this forum, especially when you lot get all techy, although sometimes the techy gets a bit to much ;D Guilty as charged ;D
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 11, 2009 8:17:53 GMT
Custom sprayed Les so no idea. Personally I suspect it is the XRAY oil; it is so heavy it keeps forcing itself past the seals ;D Ha ha ...I like that one ;D
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Post by gwesty on Oct 11, 2009 18:40:41 GMT
and back to heavy weight ready for chippenham
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Post by Reuben on Oct 13, 2009 14:02:40 GMT
update: My Mi4 is now 1260 without a body shell (havent balanced it yet). im sure i can find 10g somewhere with a little tidier wiring, TIR driveshafts on the rear will loose 8g . then that leaves 100-110 for a body. no body clips allowed
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Post by mattsedgley on Oct 13, 2009 15:51:31 GMT
so a standard 4 will get to 1380 with body which makes 1280 without.. so how have you saved the 20g then?
Matt
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Post by Reuben on Oct 13, 2009 16:38:07 GMT
not sure :S, the only non standard parts are tir front driveshafts. plus remember my receiver for Acoms is only 8g, not sure how have compares to the specktrum / futaba stuff.
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Post by mattsedgley on Oct 13, 2009 17:10:04 GMT
I'm gonna start weighing parts tonight...
I'd much rather stick at 1500 and not have to worry tbh...
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 22, 2009 21:59:20 GMT
Ok some info for Cyclone TC drivers
Absolute std spec Cyclone TC apart from slightly heavier Alloy front and rear hubs... kitted out with std size RX ,Futaba S9550(low profile)servo,Stock spec ESC, Nosram 13.5 , Mazda Speed 6 including body clips plus Sorrex 28's
Car fitted with 3800 Orion Lipo =1294 grams but needed approx 50 grams to lateral balance (fitted to outside of Lipo)
Car fitted with IP 5000 Lipo=1338 grams and balanced.
AND thankfully the cells were sitting in their correct place (not out side the chassis)
The only items that were missing during my weight test were a pinion,a PT and a race number lol...Oh and some wet Bashley grass ;D
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 26, 2009 7:55:29 GMT
A phone call from a very reliable source last night informed me that 1350 gr is now BRCA officialy approved
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Post by Jazzler on Oct 26, 2009 8:48:40 GMT
Ok, so is that it then? Should I now put my car on a diet? As I only use one car, I don't want to have to keep changing it about, but if its official and going to be used now then I guess I need to get it sorted.
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 26, 2009 9:43:42 GMT
Ok, so is that it then? Should I now put my car on a diet? As I only use one car, I don't want to have to keep changing it about, but if its official and going to be used now then I guess I need to get it sorted. Dont worry Jason its now down to the clubs and various series whether and when they adopt the change,I dont think it will happen over night. The sooner the better for me! as we found out yesterday some minor adjustments to set up may be needed to cope with a lighter car.
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Post by Reuben on Oct 26, 2009 9:59:07 GMT
indeed, after some googling and forum hunting. Les is very much correct!
1350 it is for next year!
Jason no worry about changing it straight away, our weight changes for next year will be decided at our AGM (december), along with all other changes to the club and racing at bashley.
Now last winter I learnt a lot from the car and club members, as it was a good time to test and try stuff (as it was so cold, people just wanted a bit of relaxed stressless racing). So you may see me also shredding some weight on the car this winter.
I wonder if there will be an announcement for next years series - SLCC, STCC, BTCC about what they will be adopting.
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Post by Reuben on Oct 26, 2009 10:05:26 GMT
just another interesting point and i little off topic.
Lipo and Open Mod approved at 1350!! now that is a race i wouldn't want to marshall.
any bets on BRCA insurance claims increasing this year as missile cars are breaking marshalls legs?
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Post by yellowshark on Oct 26, 2009 10:08:13 GMT
I wonder if there will be an announcement for next years series - SLCC, STCC, BTCC about what they will be adopting. Let us hope they all decide the same Reuben
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 26, 2009 10:37:31 GMT
just another interesting point and i little off topic. Lipo and Open Mod approved at 1350!! now that is a race i wouldn't want to marshall. any bets on BRCA insurance claims increasing this year as missile cars are breaking marshalls legs? Ha ha ;D...shin pads needed for marshaling. I have just heard that Chippenhan Thrashnals will be allowing 1350 for their next meeting in November...so get your Diet going Jason It would be nice to think that as a club we allow 1350 ASAP to get ahead of the game with set up's plus as Jason is thinking It will be a pain in the backside to keep altering the car for various racing. Mind you I expect quite a few members are runing a little lite any way ;D....thats not a moan at all :)just an observation from yesterdays meet.lol
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Post by TryHard on Oct 26, 2009 12:10:54 GMT
Yup, 1350 is now the weight limit for all TC classes raced at BRCA events, so Open mod and prostock. Going a little off topic, but the open mod class was the best option, it was generally agreed that motor limits are not the best thing for modified, best let em have at it. Only so much power people can drive, and a car can put too the road. Gonna be spectacular for sure The winter is going to be a bit of a tansiton, hopefully though most clubs/series will follow the agm lead
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Post by Reuben on Oct 26, 2009 13:41:55 GMT
looks like this week the car is going 1350...
to quote Fabray on racechat:
Various The results from the first round - FTD and finals are on the web site. If anyone needs any specific heat result then please let me know.
" Please note that in line with BRCA weight limit changes at todays AGM, the revised weight limit for the Touring Car classes is now 1350g.
Will publish more information next weekend as i am working away this week.
Regards __________________ Stephen Fabray"
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Post by Jazzler on Oct 26, 2009 14:07:37 GMT
Ok guys, I plan to put the car on a diet asap then. gotta make sure i'm ready for chippenham.
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Post by Reuben on Oct 26, 2009 16:09:37 GMT
another reason to not like RP30's....
they are 12-14g heavier per set than sorex 28s.
Car is now weighted and slightly motor heavy to 1356/1358 with a set of 28's on. But 1370 bang on with RP30's. looks like ill be bloated slightly at chippenham.
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 26, 2009 16:24:07 GMT
another reason to not like RP30's.... they are 12-14g heavier per set than sorex 28s. Car is now weighted and slightly motor heavy to 1356/1358 with a set of 28's on. But 1370 bang on with RP30's. looks like ill be bloated slightly at chippenham. You'll be Ok,I allways tried to run my car at 1515ish to acount for some dodgy scales at SLCC meets ;D I think one or two of us may be testing some slightly lighter springs indoors this wed!...17.5 should be a bit rapid on our little carpet track at 1350.
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Post by gwesty on Oct 26, 2009 19:52:21 GMT
another reason to not like RP30's.... they are 12-14g heavier per set than sorex 28s. Car is now weighted and slightly motor heavy to 1356/1358 with a set of 28's on. But 1370 bang on with RP30's. looks like ill be bloated slightly at chippenham. ti screw set can save about 20-30gs , also a lightweight shell will help , although i have got 40gs on my car
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Post by jamietraylor on Oct 26, 2009 21:42:50 GMT
ill be running 1350 on wednesdays from now on! I think ill stick with 13.5 this week to see the difference from last wed!
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 26, 2009 23:07:02 GMT
Just on the funny side of all this,Perhaps old Pete "the brushed" Cambell was right after all,we should have all stuck to brushed motors..A brushed motor is approx 20gr lighter than a brushless and most of its mass is closer to the cars centre line,less wires too.. As for our so called " latest tech" current ESC's my old MRT brushed speedo is a bloody feather weight compared to a Stock spec let alone the lardy ar*s GM 120 .....Progress?? nah Bulls poo ;D
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Post by lesbaldry on Oct 27, 2009 8:01:23 GMT
Going by some of my PM's and chatting to people so far I think getting our chassis to the new weight is not the issue,even the old purple tractor can make it,its getting the balance correct thats confusing some people.My photon easily makes the weight but will still need at least 30/40gr on the Lipo to balance 100%.The question is will a slight imbalance affect the handling?..to be honest I don't know I have never ran an imbalanced car...the only way to tell will be to run the cars imbalanced at 1350,slap on your Ballast to balance and feel the difference on the track...If any???
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Post by Reality Racer on Oct 27, 2009 14:37:02 GMT
Wednesday I will be running at 1360 and perfectly balanced.
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Post by Reuben on Oct 27, 2009 15:08:55 GMT
ill be 1360 - not balanced.
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Post by yellowshark on Oct 27, 2009 17:37:43 GMT
Hey Les, having seemingly blown another £80 of motor on Sunday, I know I was
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