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Post by yellowshark on Jul 18, 2008 7:49:56 GMT
We'll borrow it Les ;D
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Post by lesbaldry on Jul 18, 2008 8:56:20 GMT
You are more than welcom Pete,and the car it's strapped too if you want? Ponder this thought I've been saveing:From a drivers view and common sence tells me that on some tracks its proven that a well prepped/tweaked 27t can stay with a 13.5..fact!!..How the hell do the sceptics think that todays 17.5 will fair against either!!...debate crashed n burned???..Prove me wrong and I will eat a LiPo sack ;DLOL i still stand by my thoughts that my 17.5 is only as good as a shelf brought 27t and having absolutly no advantage other than been a good entry level motor thats easy to use that can be safely run along side and with 27t. I rest my case M' Lud...................
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Post by saintroeer on Jul 18, 2008 12:19:07 GMT
les when youve got ians speed passion to test id like to try your 17.5 at bashley, id just have to source the necessary gears
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Post by lesbaldry on Jul 18, 2008 12:45:35 GMT
les when youve got ians speed passion to test id like to try your 17.5 at bashley, id just have to source the necessary gears You can use it this sunday Ill be running 10.5 with matt/Kev and playing set up,s on the 008....you may have to borrow my speedo to as you may not have the same conectors on your speedo,..ie male mini bullet type on the speedo to fit the femalels on the motor???...make sure you can make a FDR around 3.7/3.5, probably 70/40 on your car ..I have plenty of big 48dp pinions....failing that mate you can run the car its in just program it too your trany...are you 2.4 gigs "spectrum?" Ps get you hairy backside out of bed early and ill pop the lot into your car for you...Ill be thre 8/8.30
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Post by Matt Haskell on Jul 18, 2008 12:51:41 GMT
I have 64dp upto about 48 if that helps
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Post by Reuben on Jul 18, 2008 17:52:20 GMT
I have 64dp upto about 48 if that helps that may help me my biggest pinion is 39, leaving a FDR of 6.72, and its come to light that mr townsend was running a t1rc monster stock at 6.2 last year, so ide like to experiment with a lower FDR (currently i have 6.9) so i may be borrowing some 64dps (a 40 and 41 if need be) oh and yeh the cyclone can fit upto a 77 tooth 48dp spur as far as my testing goes with it.
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Post by Matt Haskell on Jul 18, 2008 18:01:16 GMT
no problem, come find me in the morning. if i have it you can borrow it.
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Post by saintroeer on Jul 18, 2008 18:19:32 GMT
I have 64dp upto about 48 if that helps that may help me my biggest pinion is 39, leaving a FDR of 6.72, and its come to light that mr townsend was running a t1rc monster stock at 6.2 last year, so ide like to experiment with a lower FDR (currently i have 6.9) so i may be borrowing some 64dps (a 40 and 41 if need be) oh and yeh the cyclone can fit upto a 77 tooth 48dp spur as far as my testing goes with it. what spur gear are you using, the kit i had was 100 64dp and with your 39 pinion that would give you an fdr of 6.25. as for motors, i know its been said before but all motors are different, a revy motor ive been reconmended to use a high fdr, so my team one motor is run at 7+, motors with more torque ive run at around 6.5 - 6.7.
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Post by Reuben on Jul 18, 2008 20:27:34 GMT
i have a 108 tooth spur, hence the larger pinions.... but yeh its something im going to have a look at sunday.
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Post by Simon Crabb on Jul 19, 2008 10:35:58 GMT
i have a 108 tooth spur, hence the larger pinions.... but yeh its something im going to have a look at sunday. I've got some 64dp to get rid of, 40, 41, 42 pinions, a 101 spur, another spur I can't remember the size of, it might be a 95 or 96... I'll bring them along tomorrow.
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Post by Reuben on Jul 20, 2008 17:01:40 GMT
could i be as bold as to say that this thread should officially be closed. as from todays racing (and the last few weeks) the only advantage 17.5 has over 27 is the fact that you dont have to: skim, clean, re-brush, gear. Because apart from that their is no speed advantage at all. infact brushed are faster car-on-car along the straight, im pretty sure my brushed was quicker along the straight than the brushless (it was due to the fact that they were driving better and more consistant than i was) aka better drivers drive better than others no matter what motor they are using. eg if i used a brushless next week and adam used a brushed, i bet my car that he would STILL kick my bottom, and i wouldnt even improve anymore than i would if i was running brushed.
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Post by keitheroonie on Jul 20, 2008 17:42:37 GMT
I don't agree that you wouldn't improve with a brushless motor, the power delivery is so precise and smooth it gives you so much more feel for the car, which is what makes them appear faster in the hands of an expert driver. But as for equality to a 27t, the 17.5 is as good as you'll ever get for our track, it will only be a short time before the majority of drivers have changed over quite happily to brushless anyway so let the 27T brushed runners run in with 17.5 . I think, judging by the amount of brushless drivers we had today, brushed motors may become a thing of the past as quickly as NiMh batteries have.
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Post by lesbaldry on Jul 20, 2008 20:51:44 GMT
Todays racing for me couldnt of been a fairer test for the LRP 17.5 A new driver Adam Roe using a 17.5 for the first time and enjoying its simplicity and smoothness Simons extreemly close battle with Ian (17.5 V 27T) a joy to watch!..absolutly nothing between the two motors ,if I had to be critical of their perfomance the 17.5 was mildly punchier out of corners but the 27t soon caught up in the next 20 feet once it started to rev ,the 27 seemed to have a slight advantage down the strait but not much! Having seen Chriss Newburys Novak 17.5 run last wed I cant see this motor make been any faster at all(at our track), the only other motor left to test is the Speed Passion, What I saw of Ian Newtons motor I dont expect it to be a missile at all ,most probably on a par with the other two,Its only advantage I think will be is with its user friendly FDR. I feel this is an exciting time of experiment for the stock class and could well be the future of stock entry level racing...Lets hope so as the 17.5 is a joy to use and fool proof too!!....I look forward to running mine in battle at our club on a level par with other 17.5 and 27t drivers using "off the shelf motors"
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